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�Ҿl����~~2004/12/03(13:33:29) | |
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As to the fishing allegory, I would like to remind you that that ancient Chinese(?) did not use a hooked hook. (At that time there was no Chinese! ZhongGuo meant the locality where the Zhou king resided (Book of Poems). Jiang Tai Gong was before the establishment of Zhou. So calling him a Chinese is problematic, to say the least. Come on. You believe this guy is for real? Where do we all learn this guy? from some Chinese fiction, right? That's why I call him an antique. See, this guy, as the story goes, was really fishing something dry-- ;-) he was waiting for his well-calculated chance to meet the employer, the future king. I think the guy set the whole thing up. "Chinese" or not is not that important. The way IS a typical chinese way to me. --- Thanks for the links. |
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tpk 456:
"lon lek gue ni". or "gu lek gue ni" (old calendar) |
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tpk 456:
You said, "�аÝ^��n�����͡A"�ػy"�O�_�i�H��Mandarin���NChinese�H"�A��s�~"�O�_�i�H��Lunar New Year���NChinese New Year�H" Although I am no �^��n������, I do like to respond to your questions. I have seen those used interchangeably in literature. Indeed, Mandarin referred to the official language employed in the Manchu court---(northern) Guan Hua, which was very close to the Pu-Tong-Hua. I remember there was a ditty poking fun at Cantonese, tien bu pa~ di bu pa~ zui pa~ GuangDon ren suo guan hua. Lunar New Year is a more accurate expression than Chinese New Year, though both are widely used. In fact, even in Taiwan, people do not say, "Diong Gok Gue Ni", people say, "lon lek gue ni". In my childhood, people called the New Year Day, jip-bu~a gue ni. |
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sauandering should be squandering in my previous post to Henry. |
�Ҿl����~~2004/12/03(00:12:14) | |
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Henry:
Haha, I did vote for Kerry - simply because Bush did so badly in sauandering the resources, the prestiges, the credibility of the US, not mentioning the moral sin of committing crimes against humanity! Unfortunately, the majority of the US citizenry, who did take the trouble to vote, opts for him! I have been in some kind of funk ever since. You probably noticed that I cited Erasmus quite often previously. His assertion on the fools can not be truer in this case! I recommended to someone elsewhere another writer, Kurt Vonnegut. He has had some short pieces in the website, www.inthesetimes.com. Those are deep insights that console me greatly--but also enhance my pessimism on the bleak future of humanity inherent in the addictive indulgence on fossile energy. His most recent one titled, I have got a car for you, poked fun at the resurgent know-nothing-ism in the US citizenry. As to the fishing allegory, I would like to remind you that that ancient Chinese(?) did not use a hooked hook. (At that time there was no Chinese! ZhongGuo meant the locality where the Zhou king resided (Book of Poems). Jiang Tai Gong was before the establishment of Zhou. So calling him a Chinese is problematic, to say the least. Later in the Warring Period, ZhongGuo also referred to the Duchy of Lu (see Zhuang Tze).) But all these are pedantry, who cares? |
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I appreciate very much your defence for my expressing myself in English. (This also applies to Henry! :) ) There is a Chinese saying, Jiang Tai Gong Diau Yu, that is close to my original intention of employing English (besides my ignorace of Chinese typing)! Someone challenged me to learn that, but hey, it is tough for an old dog to learn new tricks. As to the use of ���ǩǦr, I would like to cite The New Fowler's Modern English Usage (Clarence Press, Oxford, 1996) to defend myself! Under the entry of PEDANTRY (hahaha): Fowler's classic statement of 1926 is still relevant: "Pedantry may be fefined, for the prupose of this fbook, as the saying of things in language so learned or so demonstratively accurate as to imply a slur upon the generality, who are not capable or not desirous of such displays. The term, then, is obviously a relative one; my pedantry is your scholarship, his reasonable accuracy, her irreducible minimum of education, and someone else's ignorance...." Of course, the Chinese saying of Hua Hu Bu Cheng Fan Lei Chuan (Paint a tiger into a dog) is always a danger. But for an old odd dog, even that is good enough! |
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